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Friday, May 9th, 2008
3:42 pm

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Thursday, June 14th, 2007
4:15 pm
weariness, not justice

The Chronicle of Higher Education
Magazine & Journal Reader
Thursday, June 14, 2007

A glance at the current issue of The Nation: 40 years after the 1967 war: The case for one state

Forty years of occupation have killed the possibility, if not the hope, of a two-state solution for Israelis and Palestinians, and made one state for two peoples the only viable alternative, argue three writers.


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Monday, February 5th, 2007
1:09 am
A Puzzler
If Jews really want us to like them, why do they spend so much time telling us how much we hate them?

Just wondering...

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Monday, January 22nd, 2007
11:11 pm
Megaphone (Using Zion's Tools Against It)
Many are wondering how Israel's relatively recent invasion of Lebanon received such high ratings in unofficial internet polls despite widely publicized reports of collective punishment, infrastructure demolition, WP (White Phosphorus) use and civilian causalities.

This is due to a devious application called Megaphone.
Megaphone is produced by a zionist organization known as "GIYUS" (Give Israel Your Support), an organization funded by Israeli students and endorsed by the US-backed zion government.

Pro-zionists use this tool to publish alerts about opinion polls, articles, etc having to do with the illegal state. Users of this freeware are hyperlinked directly to the media in question.

Naturally, this causes polls to become extremely lopsided in favor of Zion and pro-Zionist interests.

I recommend downloading this app and using it against them. Be sure to carefully avoid clicking on "VOTE NOW" (Crafty zionists made the program auto-select the pro-zion option in order to prevent exactly the right decision)

Download megaphone now

Links related to Megaphone

Current Mood: mischievous

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Friday, May 19th, 2006
7:59 pm
Odessa - Aryan & Proud
We invite you to The NEW National Socialist Discussion Forum

ODESSA is an online community for true Aryans with strong National Socialist beliefs. We invite you to come and have a look and would appreciate any input you have to offer.

With respect



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Sunday, March 19th, 2006
3:23 am
You cant change anything...
By my name u can see i serve in the IDF, as an officer.
So u can also guess i am a zionist, i just wanted to say that all u do here is useless,
theres no such thing "say NO" the "YES" happened long ago, we have a jewish \ zionist state - israel
what are u saying "No" to exactly? it exists, and u cant change anything.
u need to understand, the reason for the posts and this "community" is your own building up anger,
and above all, your lack of ability to do anything about it :]
u see, u sit there at home, post anti zionists posts on the internet, but bottom line; u guys are small people, u cant change anything, neither will u effect anything, israel stand firm, and forever will stand,
call it theft, call it murder, call it cruelty, call it what u will, u need to understand; people in israel... they dont give a f*** about world's opinion, well, at least not of the small people's opinion, like you guys, MAX u can do is effect some random people's opinion, but that wont change anything, you are still too weak to do anything, even if u sound your complains, we simply dont care :]
we will occupy till terror stops, and we will shot to kill at any armed person, israel will not tolerate terror, i love my country, i will protect it, and theres nothing the little palestinian refugee can do about it, nor can u...
u see, the real war is out there, far from u, in the middle east, gaza strip, west bank, why dont u come here and say NO to zionism hot shots? ;)
your war is internet war, post war, USELESS war... u cant, and never will change anything in real life this way, sorry to tell u in case u didnt notice, we dont care about world's opinion... if we ever listen its because of support interests and arms deals... and we listen to people like presidents, leaders, not common people, your protests are useless, and they dont do anything but stating your possition, which again... changes nothing in real life...

By actually "breaking" the zionisem, u say the country of israel should sease to exsist, it cant happen... and it wont happen, as i said, israel has its rots far deep in the ground and is standing FIRM, no arab country in the middle east can even scratch us before we would turn it into ash, and they are more than welcome to try our military power.
to every resistance, we will find an answer, and if this answer is killing everything that takes up a weapon to shot at us, than so be it...
as i said, u can call me bastard, murderer or whatever u want to call me, as long as u keep in the back of your mind, that WE DONT F*** CARE :]

have a good day :)

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Thursday, October 6th, 2005
8:01 pm
Naturally the "Palestinians" have a right to live in freedom and security as much as the "Israelis" do. But how can the "Palestianians" argue for a right of return when there are many "Israelis" who were expelled from "Arab" countries? Will the "Arab" countries' governments also allow the "Israelis" to return to those countries?

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Tuesday, September 13th, 2005
5:39 am
End the Occupation!

The violence in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories has come from both sides. Its human tragedies are equally devastating for all victims and all their families. Innocents, including children, have been killed on and by both sides, and both sides have violated international law. But the violence by Israelis and by Palestinians is not an equal opportunity killer, it does not have the same roots, nor are the two sides culpable in the same way.

Palestinians in the territories live under Israeli military occupation. They are not citizens of Israel or of any state, and have no rights of protest or redress. The occupation is a violent daily reality, in which Israeli soldiers, checkpoints, tanks, helicopter gunships, and F-16 fighter jets control every aspect of Palestinian lives, and have recently brought social, family and economic life to a virtual halt. In summer 2002 the U.S. Agency for International Development determined that Palestinian children living in the occupied territories faced malnutrition at one of the highest levels in the world--higher than in Somalia and Bangladesh. The occupation has been in place since 1967, although the current period has seen perhaps the most intense Israeli stranglehold on Palestinian life, and the highest levels of violence. What we often hear described simply as "the violence" in the Middle East cannot be understood without an understanding of what military occupation means.

Violence is central to maintaining Israel's military occupation. It is carried out primarily by Israeli military forces and Israeli settlers in the occupied territories who are themselves armed by the Israeli military, and its victims include some Palestinian militants and a large majority of Palestinian civilians, including many children. Because military occupation is itself illegal, all Israeli violence in the occupied territories stands in violation of international law--specifically the Geneva Conventions that identify the obligations of an occupying power to protect the occupied population.

Palestinian violence is the violence of resistance, and has escalated as conditions of life and loss of hope breed greater desperation. It is carried out primarily by individual Palestinians and those linked to small armed factions, and is aimed mostly at military checkpoints, soldiers, and settlers in the occupied territories; recently more attacks, particularly suicide bombings, have been launched inside Israel, many of which have targeted civilian gathering places. Those attacks, targeting civilians, are themselves a violation of international law. But the overall right of an occupied population to resist a foreign military occupation, including through use of arms against military targets, is recognized as lawful under international law.


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Thursday, July 21st, 2005
1:37 am
I have recently stumbled on this community and after reading a few entries, I thought that I should reitirate what's going on here. The members of this group are obviously antizionists. This means they do not support the existence or the notion of a Jewish state, which was fulfilled with the state of Israel in the region formerly known as Palestine. Reasons for opposing zionism are many. Some oppose it because they believe a Palestinian civilization has been displaced, some believe zionism is racist, and some are plainly anti-Semitic (I pray this one doesn't apply to most in the group).

Now let me be the first to say that I have no problem with the creation of the state of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza. I am a full supporter of that, but this is not the issue here. The issue here is the existence and idea of Israel, a Jewish state. I will try to refrain from using semi-detailed "facts" because I know a lot of members of this group probably have other "facts" or will use the same "fact" to "disprove" me. And I don't want to get into a discussion of sources and numbers because it is all trivial and besides the point anyway.

Here is zionism in a nutshell as I hope everyone sees it and how the first Zionists would see it: The Jewish state of Israel was created out of a necessity for a Jewish homeland as a response to European (especically Eastern European) anti-Semitism. The chosen location for this Jewish state was in the region formerly known as Palestine because it is the only place on Earth that all Jews have some sort of historical connection.

So my question to the anti-zionists is, "What is the problem?" So you might say, but they are kicking out innocent Palestinians and by making it a Jewish state, it is racist against all non-Jewish people. I won't even go into these arguments because that is not the point of this entry. All I am asking is what's wrong with ending anti-Semitism and furthermore, in the context of when Zionism became a fervent ideology (i.e. the late 19th century), what other choice was there for the Jews. Could it be the East African Uganda territory which Britain offered after the pogroms of 1903? Israel Zangwill thought so. But then, let's think, how can a Jewish nation survive if there is absolutely no connection to the land it is stationed on. The area of Palestine is the only homeland there is for the Jews. That's where the history is, that's where the culture began!

So to sum it all up, just realize that zionism is not meant to be racist. It is quite the contrary. Zionism is meant to be humanitarian, to give a homeland for perhaps the most consistently persecuted people to ever walk the Earth.

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Thursday, April 21st, 2005
6:07 pm
Now it's my turn...
Yeah, you know what I don't get? How can millions of people kill each other off for a piece of freakin LAND? It's retarded, and so is the idea behind this community. Jews were prosecuted for hundreds of years; why shouldn't they get a piece of land? I mean, come on! It's not like thousands of Arabs are living in every square fucking INCH! And even if you think they shouldn't've gotten somewhere to live, you need to realize that it's 2005 and there is NO way you're gonna drive us out of Israel.


Current Mood: disbelieving

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Sunday, October 17th, 2004
5:38 pm
One of the things that bothers me about the wall of separation being built by Israel is that it will cut into Palestinian territory (well, it's all really Palestinian territory) to include the settlements that were built illegally. So not only will they separate many Palestinians from their sources of income but also increse their territory.

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3:17 pm
Has anyone read the book, Arabs and Israel for Beginners, by Ron David? If so, what did you think of it?

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3:13 pm
new member
Hello everybody, my name's Abdallah and I've been an anti-zionist since I was 16. Living in the United States has made it difficult to learn the realities of the Arab-Israeli conflict and the government's part in it, as well as to learn of any unjustified actions of the U.S. national security state.

I know this might sound a bit obvious to members of this club, but I think Palestinians are the ones who have the moral and historical right to the land that is now occupied by the Zionists. I also support nearly every form of resistance on the part of the Palestinians, whether it be peaceful or aggressive.

I hope to be able to discuss the question of Zionism, Palestinian statehood and other issues with the members of this community.

Current Mood: sympathetic

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Thursday, October 7th, 2004
10:25 pm

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11:14 am
From rafahpundits.com
It was all just a dream, nothing is real, I imagined it all. No weapons of mass destruction, no roadmap, no Palestinian state, no withdrawal from Gaza, no links between Al Qaeda and Saddam. Wait that one is real, Rumsfield said so, no wait, he said there wasn't a proven link, oh, wait, he was misquoted. And so was Weisglass. There is a roadmap. Possibly a God too. And the Qassam rocket might have been a stretcher but it probably was a missile.

"Yes we were wrong", but it doesn't matter because if we hadn't done what we did then the world would have been a dangerous place (and it's safe now of course). And there is no outcry over almost a hundred Palestinians killed in a week because they are not grateful little arabs and didn't all jump and down with joy over the Gaza pullout and kept firing missiles at the nice guys. It doesn't matter that what is left isn't worth having or that the bit that is worth having isn't going to to be theirs either, but listen you ungrateful Arabs, what's with you?

Keep dreaming


James Miller: Inquest Delay
It's amazing how long it takes Israel to investigate a death at the hands of an Israeli. It seems to take them no time at all to decide a Palestinian is a "wanted man" and to assassinate him extra-judicially.......

Because Jewish Israelis NEVER kill civilians

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Wednesday, October 6th, 2004
5:10 pm
Challenging ideas

I just got back from hearing Arun Gandhi speak.  This dude totally rocks.  Most recently, he's been to the Occupied Areas, and the presentation that he gave today was on his efforts to bring nonviolence methods of resistance - and he also talked a lot on what the Israelis are doing .  His maps showing all the illeagal settlements, the check points, the abuse against the children - it's horrifying.  He told us that he's still getting death threats and other kinds of hate mail from Jews, and it's been over a month since his visit - and his only message was "stop killing each other."


His talk was indescribably powerful.  I have to admit that I'm challenged by his words.  "Justice is not revenge."  he said.  Retaliation, no matter how grevious the act that caused it, is never justified.


That's a hard pill to swallow.  I'm a very "eye for an eye" kinda gal.  But there is much wisdom in what he has to say.  I must work on this.

I had a chance to talk with him afterwards, and I'm already regreting that I wasted my questions on U.S. politics and Israel's control of U.S. pop culture - the answers he gave were what I already knew to be true - when the one question I'm really dying to ask him is:  How is nonviolence different from inaction?  How can you just stand by and let people do bad things?   However, I suspect that those answers are in his and his grandfathers' writings. 

I predict a sudden change in my reading list coming on.




Current Mood: contemplative

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Sunday, September 26th, 2004
11:22 pm
New community
To put an end to this:

Join boycottisrael

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Saturday, September 25th, 2004
9:24 pm
Pop Quiz on the Middle East
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Current Mood: impressed

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Monday, August 30th, 2004
8:06 am
albawaba [30 Aug 2004|07:58am]
Income of Palestinian households continues to decline

Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) said Monday that the median monthly income has decreased from NIS 2,500 (some $555) before Alaqsa Intifada to NIS 1,600 ($355) during 2nd quarter of this year.

In a press release on "Main Findings of the Survey on the Impact of Israeli Measures on the Economic Conditions of the Palestinian Households", the PCBS indicated that 226,000 Palestinian households lost more than 50% of their usual income, and about 22,6% of households in Gaza Strip suffered from highly critical living conditions regarding households income.

Results indicated that the median monthly income in the Palestinian territories has gone down from NIS 2,500 before Alaqsa Intifada to NIS 1,600 during 2nd quarter of this year. This decrease varies by region; the median monthly income decreased in the West Bank from NIS 3,000 to NIS 2,000 while in the Gaza Strip it dropped from NIS 1,500 to NIS 1,200.

Results of the survey indicated that 59.7% (362,000 households) of the Palestinian households saw their income decrease during Al-Aqsa Intifada, of which 62.5% (226,000 households) lost more than 50% of their usual income during Al-Aqsa Intifada, while 63.3% (159,000 households) of the households decreased their income in the West Bank compared with 52.3% (67,000 households) in Gaza Strip.

Referring to the income sources, results of the survey showed that the main income source of the Palestinian households during 2nd Quarter 2004 was wages and salaries from private sector, (30.7%), followed by wages and salaries from public sector employment (19.9%) and from households projects (14.2%). (menareport.com)
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albawaba [30 Aug 2004|07:56am]
Palestinian girl wounded by Israeli missile as mother of prisoner dies during hunger strike
30-08-2004, 10:01

An Israeli gunship helicopter on Monday fired a missile toward a car carrying four Palestinian activists, but missed and hit a nearby home instead. The incident took place in the West Bank city of Jenin. A Palestinian girl was reported wounded. The four were members of Fatah's Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.

Also in the West Bank, a Palestinian woman was killed early Monday when an Israeli settler ran her over in Qalqilya city, witnesses said. They told reporters that an Israeli vehicle ran Hasna Abu Farda 60, over, due to which she was killed. Abu Farda was on her way to Habla village, WAFA reported.

Meanwhile, a mother of a Palestinian prisoner from Nablus city died late on Sunday, suffering from a heart attack after going on a hunger strike in solidarity with the Palestinian prisoners, behind Israeli bars, local sources said.

They told WAFA that 'Aisha al-Zibn, 55, died after suffering from a heart attack as she was going on a hunger strike for 16 days.

Residents from the city conveyed that al-Zibn was the mother of Ammar al-Zibn, a prisoner with 27 life-time imprisonments behind Israeli bars. Al-Zibn's son Bashaar was killed during the intifada broke out in 1987.

In Tubas, Israeli soldiers arrested five Palestinians in Tammoun after storming it, local sources said. The five included Sameer 35, Bassim 26, Kaied Bany Awda, Azmy Abdel Waly 26, and an unidentified fifth, the sources added.

In the Gaza Strip, Palestinian medical sources reported early Monday that an unidentified civilian was killed by Israeli fire in Abu Safiya area of Beit Hanoun city.

In Khan Younis, Palestinian medical sources reported that a civilian was wounded when Israeli troops opened heavy machineguns on houses in the area to the west of the city. Wissam Abu Zarka 19, was hit with shrapnel in the head, they added.

Also in the area, an Israeli was lightly wounded Monday morning by shots fired at an Israeli post close to the town of Khan Yunis, Haaretz reported. (albawaba.com
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cni stuff [30 Aug 2004|07:54am]
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:11:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Council for the National Interest" <count@igc.org> View Contact Details
To: barhumaffandi@yahoo.com
Subject: Urge Senators Not to Endorse Israel's Illegal Wall

Urge Senators Not to Endorse Israel's Illegal Wall

We are asking our supporters to urge their Senators NOT to endorse Israel's illegal wall. Below are some suggestions for how to get involved. If you belong to an organization that might be interested in joining scores of other organizations petitioning the Senate, please see: http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=382


Urge your Senators not to endorse the illegal wall Israel is building in the Palestinian West Bank.


On July 9, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that the wall Israel is building in the Palestinian West Bank is "contrary to international law" and that Israel must cease its construction, dismantle it, and pay reparations to those damaged by it. Members of Congress who support Israel's military occupation responded by introducing legislation condemning the ICJ ruling and backing Israel's illegal wall. The House quickly passed a resolution to this effect in July but a sizeable number of Members of Congress voted against it or abstained, partly as a result of your efforts.

A similar resolution - Senate Resolution 408 - was introduced in the Senate on July 20 but was not voted on before the Congressional recess in August. The Senate is likely to vote on it sometime after it reconvenes following Labor Day.

Your efforts to educate your Senators about the importance of following a policy of human rights and international law toward Israel and Palestine can make a huge difference!


1) If you belong to an organization that would endorse a letter to each Senator urging him/her to vote no or abstain on Senate Resolution 408, please obtain their endorsement now. Endorsements are due by MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 6. To register the organization's name, visit the US Campaign website. To endorse the letter, please visit: http://www.endtheoccupation.org/petition.php?pid=5 and sign on. Representatives of the Washington Wednesday group will deliver the letters to each Senator after the Senate reconvenes on September 7.

2) Contact your Senators personally and urge them to vote no or abstain on Senate Resolution 408. Constituent phone calls, faxes, and emails are important in educating your Senators.

TALKING POINTS FOR SENATE RESOLUTION 408 (with thanks to the US Campaign):

This resolution is one-sided and unproductive. It calls attention to Israeli civilian casualties but fails to mention the far greater number of Palestinian civilian casualties. This resolution suggests no positive steps to bring about a just and lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians based on human rights and international law.

This resolution incorrectly implies that Israel's security concerns trump Palestinian human rights and that the ICJ advisory opinion diminishes Israel's right to self-defense. In fact, the ICJ opinion stated that Israel "has the right, and indeed the duty, to respond in order to protect the life of its citizens." The court noted, however, that the "measures taken are bound nonetheless to remain in conformity with applicable international law" (Para. 142), which the wall does not.

This resolution fails to mention that the Israeli Supreme Court also recognized that Israel is occupying the West Bank and that the wall is violating Palestinian human rights. On June 30 it ruled Israel has held the West Bank "in belligerent occupation" since 1967 and "the route which the military commander established for the security fence - which separates the local inhabitants from their agricultural lands - injures the local inhabitants in a severe and acute way, while violating their rights under humanitarian international law." (HCJ 2056/04, Para. 1 & 60.) On August 24, the Jerusalem Post reported that Israeli Attorney General Menahem Mazuz is recommending that Israel formally declare that the 4th Geneva Convention, which formed the basis of the ICJ advisory opinion, applies to its military occupation of the West Bank.

This resolution also fails to mention that the US judge on the ICJ, Judge Thomas Buergenthal, while voting against the majority ruling on procedural grounds, nevertheless concludes that Israel must comply with international law. In a separate declaration, Judge Buergenthal stated: "I share the Court's conclusion that international humanitarian law, including the Fourth Geneva Convention, and international human rights law are applicable to the Occupied Palestinian Territory and must there be faithfully complied with by Israel. I accept that the wall is causing deplorable suffering to many Palestinians living in that territory. In this connection, I agree that the means used to defend against terrorism must conform to all applicable rules of international law and that a State which is the victim of terrorism may not defend itself against this scourge by resorting to measures international law prohibits." (Para. 2.)

This resolution contradicts the ICJ advisory opinion on the responsibilities of all states. According to the ruling, "All States are under an obligation not to recognize the illegal situation resulting from the construction of the wall and not to render aid or assistance in maintaining the situation created by such construction." (Para. 163(D).) By actively supporting the wall, the Senate is violating the ICJ advisory opinion.

This resolution further isolates US policy toward Israel and Palestine from the international consensus. On July 20, the United Nations General Assembly voted 150 to 6 with 10 abstentions to demand that Israel comply with the ICJ advisory opinion to dismantle its illegal wall in the West Bank. The only countries voting no were the United States, Israel, Australia, Micronesia, the Marshall Islands, and Palau. The United States must work with the international community to implement a just and lasting peace based on human rights and international law.

This resolution undermines human rights, international law, and international institutions. The ICJ rendered an advisory opinion after the proper submission to it of a legal question by the United Nations General Assembly. The advisory opinion was based on sound principles of human rights and international law. Senate rejection of this advisory opinion signals to the world U.S. contempt for human rights and international law and the deliberations of international institutions that play a vital role in the pacific resolution of disputes.

This resolution draws several false analogies. It mentions Israel's "security fence" that surrounds the Gaza Strip and cites it as a positive example of reducing acts of terrorism. The resolution fails to mention that the Gaza fence is built on the border between Israel and the Gaza Strip (although Israel is also building a wall on Palestinian land on the Gaza Strip's border with Egypt). The resolution also mentions "security fences" created by the United States, Korea, and India but fails to mention that these too are situated on recognized borders or cease-fire lines. The wall Israel is building in the West Bank cuts deeply into Palestinian territory. Good fences make good neighbors only when the fence is situated on one's own property.

This resolution is factually inaccurate. It states that Oslo peace process permits the "security fence" when in fact the sponsors of the resolution do not cite one clause in any agreement signed by Israel and the PLO that permits Israel to unilaterally confiscate land to build a wall on Palestinian territory.

3) Circulate a petition to your Senators urging them to vote no or abstain on Senate Resolution 408. Constituents in Washington State have circulated a petition to Sen. Patty Murray, who cosponsored the resolution, asking her to withdraw her sponsorship. More than 500 Washington voters have signed the petition so far. If you are a Washington voter and would like to add your name to the petition, please send your contact information to dadkin@attglobal.net. The text of the petition can be found at: http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=384.

4) Write an op-ed or a letter to the editor in opposition to Senate Resolution 408. Send your op-ed or letter to the editor to your Senators regardless of whether or not it gets published. If you get published, please send a copy to us so that we can post it on our website. For your article, feel free to use language from our talking points above. Contact information for your local media can be found at: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/


The "Washington Wednesday" coalition is a group of Washington-based organizations that coordinate efforts of its multiple members to bring attention to resolutions affecting the situation in the Middle East currently being considered by Congress and to educate congressional representatives about the situation. Coalition members include: American Muslims for Jerusalem; American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee; Fellowship of Reconciliation; Council for the National Interest; Partners for Peace; US Campaign to End the Occupation (including over 100 associated organizations)
To make a tax-deductible contribution to the Council for the National Interest Foundation click here:


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3:27 am
Just wondering...
Is everyone ABLE to post? I recently noticed I had put on the feature that allows only selected members to post, but I took that off. If you still can't post, let me know by commenting in my journal.

Current Mood: curious

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